Note also the earlier record from the adjoining Wigan Borough at Astley Green (SJ7099, P Bowdler, 1954).

During the winter months it can be quite difficult to distinguish Loganberry from un-named ‘Mersey Valley’ brambles which also have pruinose stems. These brambles occurs in great abundance closeby to the Manchester Ship Canal and the River Mersey between Stretford and Warrington and are referred to as the Mersey Valley ‘caesius hybrid’ complex.